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Sunday, May 31, 2009

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ino

Yelnick,
Your call of a cluster of events for Monday includes 4 bad news for the stock market (GM bankruptcy, interest rates up, unfundable deficits, oil spike) against a single and questionably good news (shorts=resistance are taken out, but also a lot of long trading money).
And still expect stock surge.
Where is the logic?

Glenn Loser Neely

URGENT MARKET UPDATE:

We went short on friday at 909..
Please move your stops from 929 to 1500!!

We will have a HUGE crash soon... If 1500 is hit.... then Buy the market..

Glenn Loser Neely

yelnick

ino, market does not trade on news but on what happens next. Each of these events has a silver lining to stocks. GM BK is already priced in, and now the market can move on; and who knows, maybe it will work, but at least American manufacturing is being protected. Interest rates up would normally pull money out of stocks to bonds, but the rise indicates inflation fears, hence best to stay out of bonds. The bond market making Obama deficits hard to finance means an end to foolish stimulus and expensive new spending schemes, which is bullish. The oil spike (and rise in other commodities) looks near its end since not based on demand.

What I think is about to unfold is a joyous move into stocks, a general euphoria that the recession has past its worst, a belief in a recovery in Q4 or maybe as early as Q3, and a view that the beaten up stocks like financials are back on track. What will end this is a realization that the celebration was premature.

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"with a triangle B wave through most of April."

Yelnick, u mean MAY, not April :)

mttoolkit

Hey EN, email me at [email protected]

Im interested to hear how you combined River Theory with other concepts.

Upstart

No, APRIL saw a classic running triangle in the DOW. April is oorrect. May had an expanded flat in the DOW.

vipul garg

this blog is appropriately titled " final surge" if we havent seen the low.
now the behaviour will be consistent with that of structure : E of a horizontal expanding triangle... we have in store a week of massive upmove and feeling of being left out ... tgts near to 9000 on dow.

Upstart

I gave you the double zigzag with the April triangle being the x-wave in my post of 4/29. EWI is playing catch-up. But their timing makes more sense than my call for the top in June. A later time will make things conform that much more with the Nikkei analog.

RNB

Yelnick,

A small error:

"Monday will be a historic day for the Dow Jones Industrial Average. It will mark the first time in history that a Dow component declares bankruptcy, which is what is purportedly scheduled to occur with respect to General Motors..."

In 1987, Texaco declared bankruptcy and was part of the Dow Jones Industrial Average.

vipul garg

dg/other neowavers,
what are the rules for a large X wave regarding 1. time 2. price 3. complexity

DG

vipul,

I think this wave still qualifies as a "small x" because it hardly retraced any of the original move down off the all-time S&P highs. It looks like we only retraced about 23% of the original move down from the high (taking the October 2008 low to November 2008 high as the maximum extent of the retrace). While this is low from a price retracement perspective, time retracement makes it very likely these two waves are of the same degree.

As of right now, we are at a Fib time ratio of nearly a perfect 61.8% (253 trading days for the original move down from the all-time high to the October 2008 low and 158 trading days of this x-wave so far). If you take the December high in 2007 as the actual beginning of the move down, then we are at about 78.6% Fib time ratio (158 trading days divided by 211 trading days for the original move). Obviously, both of those time ratios work nicely. I don't think an x-wave can be longer in time than the wave preceding it, which I think would end up making it a B-wave instead.

On the complexity, the x-wave is usually less complex than the wave preceding it, but can be equally complex, just not more complex. Given the amount of time and subdivision present in both the original move down and the x-wave, I would say they are probably equally complex, since every wave has visible subdivisions.

yelnick

RNB, thanks for the correction! I got the original info quoting the STU. Today I saw articles which suggested there may have been others as well.

yelnick

Fork (and Upstart), we have had 2 triangles - one in April (B wave of the initial ABC up) and now the X wave we are apparently still in. More in my major post (coming).

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