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Wednesday, September 09, 2009

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When the rally is close to ending for real the NAZ will break off first. So far this hasn't happened and is leading up so the ending diagonal scenario seems viable.

There is more upside to go, nevertheless, it never hurts to be vigilant.

Forkoholic Serge" "The Fork Master",   you pay tax to IRS or are you using Russian tax system?   ever been audited by IRS ?

Sergey Znutin, aka "Forkoholic Serge" "The Fork Master",

you pay tax to IRS or are you using Russian tax system? ever been audited by IRS ?

Sergey Znutin, Irvine, CA 92620 is the founder and CEO, FinancingIdea.com.
Sergey Znutin, aka "Forkoholic Serge" "The Fork Master", solicited investors of US$2million each with false claims of investment successes: "Relax and enjoy only the best pitches and fines ideas which make you millions and billions!"

www.financingidea.com
http://www.FinancingIdea.com/Docs/BusinessPlan.pdf
http://www.philanty.com/


He further socilitated people to donate $1000 fee for a lifetime membership in educational resources (Forkoholics 1000 Club Lifetime). He made numerous false prediction, but manipulated his track record.

Neither the firm nor its principal is registered with the SEC.

min

Boy oh boy Dumbitry,

You really got poked hard by Forkaholic didn't you?
It's too bad you made such a dumbass move.

So how much did he get you for? You know, for someone who claims to be so smart your proving to be anything but.

His websites look pretty amateurish to me. I guess it takes an idiot to fall for another idiot's pitches.

Listen, it looks like you've already scared Forkaholic away from here. Do you know he contributes to many other sites besides this one? I've seen his name around. You are so livid. I'm sure you won't have any trouble finding the other places to drive him back to Russia as it were.

In the meantime, we're pretty fed up with your bilious ranting so either get more and more specific dirt on the guy and put him away or move on.

Face it you got ass-raped good, you were one of his many bitches, we got it, we feel sorry for you. Pick up your vaseline and move on.

OR, get more specific details on the guy and do something positive with it, like maybe warn others so they don't make the same mistakes you made. This will also take business away from him which I'm sure would make you feel much better right?

You just have to come across more intelligent and less like a lunatic so people will listen to you.

Do you need a good lawyer? Maybe there are holes in his disclaimer? Do something, anyhting, just stop bellowing like a wounded cow.

min, don't mumble too much.. not worth it.

>His websites look pretty amateurish to me.

You mumbled all day and night this is only ONE thing are correct.

>I guess it takes an idiot to fall for another idiot's pitches.

but I am not the one.

As I said, you are too genetically missing things... brains.

Lucas Allen Udell

Yeah, I'm no stranger to granger but, like a babe in a manger, I'll wager he'll "pain" ya!

george

yelnick said:
As you can see the MACD is turning over.

i would like to add the following:
the lines haven't crossed yet but
the MACD histogram that is the
light blue bars on the MACD is
showing a negative
divergence similar to the oscillator
just above it with the blue trend
line added.

george

to the forkaholic loser:
i am sorry to hear you
lost money. i hope things
work out for you. there is
nothing anyone here on the
blog can do to help you
with this problem. perhaps
you should consult someone
as min said in his above
comment that is an
lawyer.
best regards,
george

Mike McQuaid

The NDX and $TRAN have both topped the corresponding resistance of their charts compared to the SPX chart above. As the trend soldiers up these two sectors are providing leadership.

another one with missing eye balls or brain cells?

george

are you another one with missing eye balls or brain cells?

I do not read fork garbage. I am just gifted to investigate and report to authorities.

I know it's beyond your comprehension. enough with inferior people. audios chow chow

Forkoholic Serge" "The Fork Master"...also filed with IRS

also filed with IRS

Sergey Znutin, aka "Forkoholic Serge" "The Fork Master",

you pay tax to IRS or are you using Russian tax system? ever been audited by IRS ?

Sergey Znutin, Irvine, CA 92620 is the founder and CEO, FinancingIdea.com.
Sergey Znutin, aka "Forkoholic Serge" "The Fork Master", solicited investors of US$2million each with false claims of investment successes: "Relax and enjoy only the best pitches and fines ideas which make you millions and billions!"

www.financingidea.com
http://www.FinancingIdea.com/Docs/BusinessPlan.pdf
http://www.philanty.com/


He further socilitated people to donate $1000 fee for a lifetime membership in educational resources (Forkoholics 1000 Club Lifetime). He made numerous false prediction, but manipulated his track record.

Neither the firm nor its principal is registered with the SEC.

george

Forkoholic Serge

better than fork garbage.

Forkoholic Serge | Elliott Wave Forkology

Are you freaking kidding me?
I don't have to registed with SEC - read the law, you idiot!
Yelnick, please remove that idiot and block him from your site!
And send me his IP address, FBI will be interedted in him!

Forkoholic Serge  Next have more bosche than vodka.

Forkoholic Serge

Next have more bosche than vodka. you are the un-calculated dumbest Russian I ever know of. If you did not study at school, you should at least have some street smart.

Read all SEC charges.. whether you are registered or not a statement, not the charge.

>FBI will be interedted in him!  The famous word- remind me of thinkingtrades.com!!

>FBI will be interedted in him!

The famous word- remind me of thinkingtrades.com!!

What's FBI's job description?

john walker

Yelnick, The inmates have escaped the asylum and taken over your comment section.

yelnick

yep, pathetic. I wil begin policing this. sigh.

Forkoholic Serge | Elliott Wave Forkology

Thanks for heap advertising - more subscribers to me!
You just a freak of nature. Hope it shows when look at yourself in a mirror.

I'm not a financial adviser nor I manage other people's money!
Read the disclaimer on my website!

I do look for investor- single investor only! And it is on my website!
http://forkoholic.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!233C658FDE78D41A!160.entry
for my Financial Social Network project

As for $1000 Educational Forkoholics Club it will be open later this year.
I have not accepted a single payment of $1000 yet.
It is an educational financial resource.
and $1000 is for a LIFETIME MEMBERSHIP!
You'll get monthly newsletter, daily updates and reports for FREE for the rest of the life.

That $1M will go to build our Financial Social Network site.

Forkoholic Serge | Elliott Wave Forkology

As a bridge to bild my future Financial Social Network site
I propose the Unified Forecasting Standard implementation.
That's the presentation I typically send to potential venture capitalists.

http://forkoholic.com/idea/docs/UFSForecasting.pdf

if you are lucky, you would not have to wait until madoff's age...

would i care whether you made 29 dollar more? although i do not believe whatever you say.

read SEC and other regulatory body's jurisdiction whether they only monitor financial advisor.. dumb shit

in the meantime, your name in on their lists. and google keeps record for ever. if you are lucky, you would not have to wait until madoff's age...

Forkoholic Serge | Elliott Wave Forkology

Brutal personal attack on me( Forkoholic Serge) today on Yelnick's website
was obviously the result of my critique on Neely's NeoWave on the same website earlier this week.

Overzealous Neely supporter started attacking me and my services personally.
It is only shows what Elliott Wave Forkology is considered a real threat to
NeoWavers.

I urge everyone to subscribe to Elliott Wave Forkology and it’s studies. We provide financial educational resources for every type of investor & trader.

http://www.forkoholic.com/

How Wrong Can Someone Be?

NEELY stopped out YET AGAIN!!!! This guy is a joke.

Miguel

Yelnick
i love your blog.
I do not participate to be proven right.
I mainly participate to study if OTHERS can be right.
A lot of interventions are most interesting. LAtely however....
Some obviously are here for other purposes

Inan

I enjoy studying the rational sane reasoned principles of socionomics

don't worry. google keeps forkholic sergio crook forever

>brutal personal attach.. result of my critic on Neely
readers have cronysm, but not as dumb as you are.
don't call that critic when you were looking for wave 5 down since june.. crook.
i am a neely support either, dumb shit.

>Yelnick, please remove that idiot and block him from your site!
why remove. when it's heap advertising - more subscribers ?

don't worry. google keeps yelnick forever, and google hits on Forkholic Sergio crook is significant increased this week.

dumb shit, stealing someone's money is not that easy, even in california. esp, 2 million dollars.

Sergey Znutin, aka "Forkoholic Serge" "The Fork Master", solicited investors of US$2million each with false claims of investment successes: "Relax and enjoy only the best pitches and fines ideas which make you millions and billions!"

dumb shit, stealing someone's money is not that easy, even in california. esp, 2 million dollars.

get a lawyer get facts straight before you end up jail, which i think is a better option for you.

DG

NEELY stopped out YET AGAIN!!!! This guy is a joke.

Posted by: How Wrong Can Someone Be? | Thursday, September 10, 2009 at 11:09 AM

A couple of 1% or less losses (I think it's three stop-outs now since the start of the July run) are not all that big a deal when compared to the potential of a new low in the SPX.

No one wants to lose money, but you need to have some perspective, too.

DG

It is only shows what Elliott Wave Forkology is considered a real threat to NeoWavers.

I've seen your wave counts and you are no threat. You're another one who just slaps labels on price moves with little or no discipline. You were counting the overnight futures as part of your data, which directly contradicts the requirement that wave counts be based on mass psychology, i.e. when the masses are asleep, it makes no sense to count futures waves.

forPPP

A couple of 1% or less losses (I think it's three stop-outs now since the start of the July run) are not all that big a deal when compared to the potential of a new low in the SPX.

Well couple of 1% that's a lot, because Neely suggest to always risk 1%. How much will you earn by making new low? Well e.g. 500 points to the new low, with 50 points risk - that's only 10% of earnings, minus 4% already lost and from the biggest ever move down you get only 5% - 6% return. Taking into account you won't catch whole move, but about 50% to 60% and you will end with only break even. DISAPPOINTMENT

DG

Well e.g. 500 points to the new low, with 50 points risk - that's only 10% of earnings, minus 4% already lost and from the biggest ever move down you get only 5% - 6% return.

If Neely loses 50 points getting stopped out 5 times with an average 10 point loss, which is a pretty accurate measure of his losers so far, but gains 300 (60% of a 500 point move), that's 250 points per contract or $12,500/contract. Neely charges $45/month for his Trading service. For one contract, that's 2300% ROI for the annual fee of $540.

Plus, if you're making a positive return while the market is tanking 50%, that's pretty significant by any standard of benchmarking. This is what's called "alpha" in finance jargon and it is something for which asset managers are highly compensated.

Are you ready for the crash?  no. Just a conman tried to steal $2M.

Forkoholic Serge - short term wave 4 up till may/april 09 then the real wave 5 comes in may/june to bring us to new lows
http://i41.tinypic.com/4u9w5l.jpg


Forkoholic Serge of Elliott...wrote:
Are you ready for the crash?
Some similarities with 1987
http://forkoholic.spaces.live.com
June 27
http://caldaroew.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D2CB8C5EBA2ADE86!46465.trak
Weblogs that reference this entry


wave 5 down the countdown has begun

Are you ready for the crash?  no. Just a conman tried to steal $2M.

Are you ready for the crash?
Some similarities with 1987

Forkoholic Serge - short term wave 4 up till may/april 09 then the real wave 5 comes in may/june to bring us to new lows
http://i41.tinypic.com/4u9w5l.jpg


Forkoholic Serge of Elliott...wrote:
Are you ready for the crash?
Some similarities with 1987
http://forkoholic.spaces.live.com
June 27
http://caldaroew.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D2CB8C5EBA2ADE86!46465.trak
Weblogs that reference this entry


wave 5 down the countdown has begun
no. Just a conman tried to steal $2M.

Eventhorizon

forPPP

Your argument might make sense if your numbers were correct. You have made a leap from 1% of capital at risk to 50pts of position risk. In order to complete your analysis correctly you need to know actual points at risk rather than just guess.

Even if Neely has risked a 50pt stop 3 times and been wrong in the hopes of gaining maybe 250 - 300 pts that would still be way better than breakeven if he were right on the next attempt (loss=150, gain= 250 to 300). Furthermore, trading losses are sunk costs - each new position should be taken on the merits regardless of prior losses on trades in the same direction.

Perhaps DG would be kind enough to share what the initial position risk was in points for those 3 attemtpts.

forPPP

that's 250 points per contract or $12,500/contract.

Please don't use absolute value of contract, because it's providing false picture of earnign / loosing. This 250 points (usuing 50 points stop loss and 1% capital) is only 5% of capital gain. I know $12500 looks good, but it's only 5% (not counting previus looses !!!). To get this return you have to invest $250000 !!!

If Neely loses 50 points getting stopped out 5 times with an average 10 point loss

Maybe this was the performance before March 2008. Unfortunately within only last 2 days Hourly traders lost 1.6% of capital !!! In absolute value loss of about $4000 (investing the same $250000). Last days $4000 loss, how much loss since March 2008? Probably $10000 in absolute value.

forPPP

Your argument might make sense if your numbers were correct. You have made a leap from 1% of capital at risk to 50pts of position risk. In order to complete your analysis correctly you need to know actual points at risk rather than just guess.

You are right. I've given a bit more negative (than positive) example with this 50 points of position risk just to illustrate the case ;) In reality it can be better, but also it can be worse.

forPPP

I'm sorry, I meant March 2009 not 2008.

To summarize. Assuming the whole move will be caught (if it will be ever down ;) ), it will be advertised as "You could take 500 points profit, $25000 per contract". Unfortunately the truth will be that you gain very small portion of your capital.

Mamma Boom Boom

DG or anyone that knows,

Has Neely changed his longer term count or is he still using the October low as a major pivot point?

DG

Unfortunately the truth will be that you gain very small portion of your capital.

Posted by: forPPP | Thursday, September 10, 2009 at 01:22 PM

It sounds like your "argument" is that because you (or someone) have little capital to start with, you're not going to become rich on one trade. That has nothing to do with Neely.

Yes, at times he has used wide stops, but as of late, his stops have been 10-15 points. A look at the compression of volatility will tell you why.

To summarize. Assuming the whole move will be caught (if it will be ever down ;) ), it will be advertised as "You could take 500 points profit, $25000 per contract". Unfortunately the truth will be that you gain very small portion of your capital.

Again, if you are making a positive return and the market is down 50%, I'm not sure what the complaint is, whether that return is 5% or 50%. You have accomplished one of the primary tasks of money management, "return of capital", in an environment where others are losing theirs. Neely recommends his position sizing because of his desire to control risk. There are other ways to control risk or size positions or manage trades. It sounds like you might like the idea of a constant "portfolio heat", which allows you to commit additional capital to winning trades, in order to boost total returns. Expecting Neely to do that kind of sophisticated position management for his subscribers is a bit much, I think. In addition, it would require that his subscribers (and he) basically watch every tick of the market, so even if he did provide that level of trade management detail, how many of his subscribers would realistically act on it? How much more would he have to charge? I think that if a trader wants to get to that level of sophistication, he's going to need to do it on his own. Neely (and NeoWave in general) provide a tool set that I think is unparalleled in the ability to manage risk using wave structure, but beyond that you have to take responsibility for your own trading.

DG

Last days $4000 loss, how much loss since March 2008? Probably $10000 in absolute value.

I track ES points gained/lost and, yes, there has been a net loss of about 90-100 points on the Daily and Weekly timeframe since March 2009. The Hourly moves stops more quickly, so it's lost less. That was after 300-400 point gains on those timeframes from October 2008 to March 2009. So, since we're about a year after I started tracking the data more closely, the net gain, points-wise is between 200 and 300, in a market that is down year-over-year.

DG

Ned,

He's placing more emphasis on the November lows at the moment, although there is debate whether or not he should be. It's somewhat academic because the implications of either count are the same, i.e. new bear market lows.

min

****DUMBITRY JUST PROVED IT*****

Forkaholic Serge confirmed more incompetent than the rest. We got it. Now keep tabs on hid blunders and limit your reminders to once a day at most.

min

hid=his sorry

James

If Neely loses 50 points getting stopped out 5 times with an average 10 point loss, which is a pretty accurate measure of his losers so far, but gains 300 (60% of a 500 point move)

There's always the possibility he'll miss most if not the entire down move, if and when it finally occurs, like he did with the drop to the March lows. He'll get in and then issue an emergency update to get out because it's moving "too slow," and then be on sidelines while it keeps going lower and lower.

min

Dumbitry:

It's not "audios" it's "adios" (spanish}

It's not "chow chow" it's ciao ciao (italian)

So much for your "superior intelligence, brains and eyeballs".

I wouldn't be surprised if you were now banned from this site

Inan

I have had it up to here with this shit and i will not toleratethis ad hominem crap. If there is somepne who has connef you deal woth it the policefbi whatever

mow lets talk elliott. I see a 5 wave with a little subminuette shittricking

i defy you to say this is a new lowmove

elliott stops working when the fed gets serious!!!

DG

There's always the possibility he'll miss most if not the entire down move, if and when it finally occurs, like he did with the drop to the March lows. He'll get in and then issue an emergency update to get out because it's moving "too slow," and then be on sidelines while it keeps going lower and lower.

That's doubtful because we're in a completely different phase of the overall wave structure. Once he gets in, I doubt he will have much cause to get out.

DG

elliott stops working when the fed gets serious!!!

All market action can, eventually, be explained by wave theory. Doing so in real-time is the challenge.

kld


DG, TA is not working in this environment. You have GS and the boys looking at end of Sept quarter-end statment coming up. With light volume they need to make sure those statements look good to draw in fresh money to keep generating commissions. There is no other explanation other than manipulation for price of these markets.

min

If you guys were willing to trade longer time frames you would be sitting on substantial profits right now.

This would allow you to keep some reasonable stops and ratchette them up up as this market grinds higher.

I agree with DG I proven this to myself many times so I am just waiting to get stopped out while the gains accumulate.

Once stopped I will wait for the first failed high to consider going short or getting back in. So I miss out on a little market action. Big Deal I get most of the middle —plenty for me.

Gurus are for amateurs. There is nothing like experience and some basic market skills. Those of you that trade profitably know what I'm saying.

min

agree with DG= Elliott can be broken down into waves every time. problem is doing it in real time

min

>elliott stops working when the fed gets serious!!!

That's true too which is why I like longer time frames unless some crazy shit starts to fly like in 2008

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