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Tuesday, June 29, 2010

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DG

What do you contribute ?

Also, go back to February's archive and you will find the first round of my calling out Roger's terrible charts. He was screaming about a wave-1 down from the January high and how wave-2 was about to end. Of course, I was arguing the alternative perspective because I saw NOTHING in the charts back then to indicate the move down from January's high was Impulsive. Roger also claimed I didn't know anything about Impulse waves then, too.

Point f-cking blank is that Roger doesn't know sh!t, but talks as if he does. Since many times people respond to HOW a message is delivered, rather than the WHAT of the message, it is easy to be convinced that Roger might be something more than an idiot. Well, he isn't.

He was wrong in February and he's wrong now, at least when it comes to any "iii of 3" BS. Could we decline more from these levels? Sure. Neely's wave count, which I think is the right wave count, calls for a wave-(C) down. I think Neely has missed the end of wave-(B) and the wave-(C) has probably begun, but even if it has, a wave-(C) isn't a "iii of 3", so even if we do continue to decline, that doesn't validate Roger's count in any way, shape or form.

Also, unlike Roger, I post bigger-picture "predictions" only rarely because I like to let conditions line up in their favor. So, on April 26th, I posted this "prediction":

I was originally looking for a Triangle to end the Triple Combination, but, this leg from the February lows is taking so long that I am not sure a Triangle will work. If you look at the initial rallies from the March 2009 low and the July 2009 low, the first leg up took much less time than the current one. This leads me to wonder if this isn't a self-contained structure. I am looking at it as a "Neutral Diametric", i.e. a Diametric whose first five segments follow the rules of a Neutral Triangle. If that is the case, I will know by April 29th because that is when time will run out for that structure.

http://yelnick.typepad.com/yelnick/2010/04/greek-metaphors-converge-on-creditanstalt.html?cid=6a00d8341c563953ef0133ecf80f86970b#comment-6a00d8341c563953ef0133ecf80f86970b

In the days leading up to that, I posted these charts showing a major pattern coming to an end:

http://yfrog.com/20spydailyclosep

http://yfrog.com/j7spydaily7p

So, it didn't take me 6 months and 500 wrong predictions to identify a major turning point, unlike your pal Roger.

nspolar

DG, a couple of questions if you don't mind:

Neely's wave count, which I think is the right wave count, calls for a wave-(C) down. I think Neely has missed the end of wave-(B) and the wave-(C) has probably begun, but even if it has, a wave-(C) isn't a "iii of 3", so even if we do continue to decline, that doesn't validate Roger's count in any way, shape or form.

If Neely missed the end of wave B, did DG also miss the end of wave B? I.e. were you following Neely here?

A minor point or comment would be appreciated about your comment that Neely had the right count, yet you think he missed the B top? How could the Neely count have been totally right if he missed the B top? If it was totally right, would not have he had hit it dead nutz? It had to have been wrong at some point, if he missed the B top, right?

Per Neowave does a 'C' always subdivide into an 'abcde'; or are there other possibilities?

DG, don't miss this C wave down. That is the best advice I can give you or anyone. It is a C wave too (we can agree on something, yes), and I think the initial portion of it will just be a grinder. C waves can vary in type, at least in my opinion. Most are steep sloped, quick and nasty, but then there is the Chinese water torture type.

ns

Roger D.

It's nice to see popped stops on the downside for a change,1020 on the ES, now 1016. I expect a big increase in the volatility. God I love 3/3/ of 3!

Roger D.

joe pacheco

I agree roger - and that 9200 level in Tokoyo is not going to hold for long - probably not for 48 hours.

Joe

upstart

Roger D., I still think you're rushing things. It's unfolding nicely now, but I think it happens over the next couple of weeks or so. Just messin' with you a little. Good luck. I hope we get Mamma's weak bounce so I can put on some more shorts.

joe pacheco

Did you say it just hit 1016?? I don't see it.

Joe

Mary-Jane


It's the other people reading who are the ones I am trying to help see why your counts are wrong.

NO YOU ARE NOT. If you actually cared you would comment on the Elliott wave analysis and forecasts that Yelnick posts.


I actually hope you lose your shirt trying to trade your wrong-headed "wave iii of 3".

My goodness! you are a bitter person! If people don't like what you have to say, you wish them destroyed....
You need to have that checked, by a good psychiatrist!


you'll shut your piehole about "wave iii of 3" forever.

This is a free country and a free internet. If you don't like "wave iii of 3", don't read the comments or go start your own website.


I only hope you're "all in" on the short side, so you can get f*cked and finally learn your lesson.

Perhaps your family puts up with this sort of eloquence and kindness, but we don't have to.


Unlike you, I don't proclaim that every day is the end of some major pattern.

No, you just like to provoke people who do not like Neely's method so that you can pick verbal fights. It seems that you are missing "Glenn Loser Neely" and that you are trying to get him started again.


Yelnick has mentioned my alternatives to Neely's various shorter-term counts in his updates before and I have posted links to MANY charts that would have kept both bears from getting too bearish and bulls from getting too bullish.


If Neely's method is so good, why don't you post some links to blogs that use the "Neely Method" analysis and discuss the forecasts that they come up with using the "Neely Method"

OR
even better, why don't you post some links so that we can see how other "Neely method" traders respond to your analysis and forecasts.

OK?

Mary-Jane


Yes, come to think about it,

that's a terrific idea!!

Why don't you post some links so that we can see how other "Neely method" traders appreciate and respond to your analysis and forecasts

It would be really interesting (even entertaining) to see how you treat those guys and how they respond to you.

joe pacheco

I see it Roger - 1016 alright.

DG

If Neely missed the end of wave B, did DG also miss the end of wave B? I.e. were you following Neely here?

I'm using something completely separate from Neely's trade recommendations right now. I'm up since the price highs.

A minor point or comment would be appreciated about your comment that Neely had the right count, yet you think he missed the B top? How could the Neely count have been totally right if he missed the B top? If it was totally right, would not have he had hit it dead nutz? It had to have been wrong at some point, if he missed the B top, right?

Yeah, it became wrong when he missed the top of wave-(B) in late April. Neely realized that he probably didn't have the right count at the next lower Degree, but was using NeoWave logic to generate trade ideas. Unfortunately, what needed to happen was he needed to take that logic down to a lower timeframe to make it more viable. I also think he mismanaged trades. When he got subscribers in on April 19th, his stop should have been the April 26th high and he should not have let that trade get stopped out at 1211.

No one had the right count at the lower Degree, except maybe me, as per my post above that the pattern I was tracking had to end by April 29th and I'm still not sure my Neutral Diametric construct is correct, I only know that the market's behavior was consistent with what NeoWave rules would say are required of a Neutral Diametric and was not consistent with any other wave structure's rules.

Per Neowave does a 'C' always subdivide into an 'abcde'; or are there other possibilities?

It will depend on which pattern the C is part of. In Neely's case, he is thinking Triangle, in which case wave-(C) will be a :3, which could be almost anything, but I am also open to the idea of a wave-(C) as a :5 to end a Flat which began in the Fall of 2008. The main problem with that is that I clearly don't see this intial drop from the April high as an Impulse, so that would mean the :5 would have to be a Terminal, which is something I'm not prepared to rule out or affirm at this juncture, since there just isn't enough information to say. The safer bet is probably that it's going to be a :3

DG, don't miss this C wave down. That is the best advice I can give you or anyone. It is a C wave too (we can agree on something, yes), and I think the initial portion of it will just be a grinder. C waves can vary in type, at least in my opinion. Most are steep sloped, quick and nasty, but then there is the Chinese water torture type.

I'm in. Actually, at the revelant Degree for anyone "position trading", wave-Cs are quite linear with respect to time elapsed and tend toward their goal in much more straightforward a manner than waves falling under other Progress Labels. Wave-C is an ideal "pyramiding" wave or a wave where you want to re-enter short trades on strength (of course, assuming the wave-C is trending downward). Given the way that what I think is wave-(C) has started, i.e. as a :3, it's either going to be a 1st Extension Terminal, a Neutral Diametric or a Symmetrical.

Bird

Well, so here's a bit about the state of my art.

Some of you noticed that I called for a possible tradeable bottom yesterday. We can debate about whether that happened today or not. But for me, it is THE issue. Because it was at best an interim counter-trend low that I was trading against. I couldn't tell if it was going to be longer lasting or not.

In contrast, I also had reason to believe April 26th would be a potential long term top, and published this to others back in September 2009. Very different outcome, so far anyway.

The problem is right there, and if it is not solved, it is just not going to take me where I need to go. My methods can be very precise and sometimes seem as good as it gets, at least to me. And they are beautiful too, because the set-ups are redundant, with complex geometries unfolding, I would almost say, "intentionally". The market aims for this, again and again.

The issue is that the set-ups don't distinguish a sub-wave 3 from a final wave 5 (an analogy). The feel of it is that the market reaches for these geometric turning points, then decides later if it wants to make it "THE" turn, or just an interim one. This is why I've started saying that at certain points the market "allows" a turn to occur, but I cannot definitively say that it will be a strong turn.

There are some compensations. If it misses an early set up (measured against the prior trend and maybe the one before), then the next one, if it locks in, has a greater shot at being "THE" one. But it is still guesswork.

Where I often feel most comfortable, and have piped up in some comments here, is when there is NO lock in. At this point it has seemed easier to say reliably that the move is just not yet over. While it seems easier, I confess to very rarely entering a trade on the basis of this kind of call. Where to put the stops? What risk-reward? But it is very helpful when I am already in a position and can say, "not this, not that". False ends do get locked in, and I will conservatively exit there, but that is nothing to complain about.

I am on the fence as to whether this is (i) just the way it is, (ii) an indication that I just don't have what I seek, or (iii) whether the WAY to know the difference (between interim and final turning points) lies in a different realm of intelligence altogether, and that it is meant to be this way, as the markets are alive.

If (iii) is true, then I am in for an even grander adventure than I was looking for. But I am being [forced] to look at an entirely different kind of knowing of how to trade.

nspolar

DG,

I appreciate your response.

wave-Cs are quite linear with respect to time elapsed and tend toward their goal in much more straightforward a manner than waves falling under other Progress Labels

We agree on that too.

ns

DG

NO YOU ARE NOT. If you actually cared you would comment on the Elliott wave analysis and forecasts that Yelnick posts.

I've posted dozens, if not hundreds, of detailed criticisms of the various Elliott Wave counts that Yelnick has culled from other sites. I've pointed out issues relating to internal wave structure, time issues, lack of proper Fib relationship issues, logical issues. I've repeatedly said the EWI "nested 1-2" counts were wrong and that Tony Caldaro's shift to a bullish stance was premature. I got to the point where I've pointed out the same mistakes so many times that it becomes nearly impossible to keep up with them.

The problem with the wave-based sites out there is that the proprietors of those sites DON'T LEARN FROM THEIR MISTAKES. You can't force someone to learn.

Yes, come to think about it,

that's a terrific idea!!

Why don't you post some links so that we can see how other "Neely method" traders appreciate and respond to your analysis and forecasts

It would be really interesting (even entertaining) to see how you treat those guys and how they respond to you.

Yeah, if you can find a place where "Neely Method" traders hang out online, let me know. The best ones I have met online have all been through this website.

Also, it's not my job to get you up to speed on my past posts, both those critical of others and those laying out my own view of where the market is heading.

I posted earlier that Roger and I went through the same back and forth in February and he was 180 degrees WRONG on where the market was heading and I was right. I also posted that at the last high in April, I was looking for a major reversal based on a wave count stretching back to March 2009. There are posts in September 2009 and October 2009 where I said that we were close to topping out. I shorted the market a few points from the January high (also documented here).

If this site had a feature where you could look up individual's past posts, you'd see all of this. You come into the discussion months and months after the fact and think you can add something insightful? From your comments, it's clear you're working with basically zero context.

My goodness! you are a bitter person! If people don't like what you have to say, you wish them destroyed....
You need to have that checked, by a good psychiatrist!

The only thing that is going to get Roger to LEARN is if he suffers. In the long-run, he'll be better off. Even Prechter is not so stupid as to trade his "wave iii of 3" down wave count and keeps his money in Treasuries, as he has stated many times (if Prechter has changed his asset allocation, I have not seen a write-up of that fact, but if I'm wrong about it, I'm wrong). Got that? Even Prechter is smarter than Roger, if Roger is indeed trading that wave count.

Plus, like Gordon Gekko once said, "A fool and his money were lucky to get together in the first place".

Roger D.

To be fair DG has some valid points. I thought we had topped in January. The valueline had reached close to a double top and there was a tight wedge up in both the Dow and S&P. Also the market had moved to the 50pct level. OK, I didn't see the possibility of that wedge expanding and a blowoff of sorts. There was 3 waves up on the monthly and being a corrective wave,I thought it was finished.

The short story is that the febuary low was "D" or 4 on the wedge and we continued up until the 60pct retrace level, finishing "E" on the wedge.

Now has this top has been volatile in terms of price movement,but in fact simple in the overall wave structure. Am I too bearish in the short term, in the past,yes. Now I don't think so, in fact to disregard the charachter of this decline, I think is foolish or in denial of what's really taking place here.

What I think has and is taking place is a massive speculative bubble has come to a end,14 months of basically straight up. Brought about by foolish Fed policy to "short volatility".

Parabolics in the Valueline,BIDU,AAPL and others never end well.

But there are many the are fooled by the 5 waves up since the March low. In fact there is a reasonable explanation for those that open their eyes and look at various stocks. Some such as AAPL, AMZN,IBM,MCD, and a few others have completed 5 waves up of some major degree.

Now is this a corrective wave down,only to stop at some point here. No MCD,AAPL and IBM to me says that not possible, they haven't come down enough.

Is this a new bull market? God almighty,you must think I was born yesterday to be that blind.

DG as we talked about before this move off the top is impulsive and untill we stop doing five down and three up I will continue to be firmly unequiveably damn right bearish.

Roger D.

Roger D.

"The only thing that is going to get Roger to LEARN is if he suffers. In the long-run, he'll be better off. Even Prechter is not so stupid as to trade his "wave iii of 3" down wave count and keeps his money in Treasuries, as he has stated many times (if Prechter has changed his asset allocation, I have not seen a write-up of that fact, but if I'm wrong about it, I'm wrong). Got that? Even Prechter is smarter than Roger, if Roger is indeed trading that wave count.

Plus, like Gordon Gekko once said, "A fool and his money were lucky to get together in the first place".

DG,
God your a fucking asshole!

Roger D.

MARK HOLSCHER

DG YOUR BOX IS GETTING SMALLER AND SMALLER. CAN YOU HEAR YOURSELF. YOUR ANGER STOPS THE TRUTH AND PROMOTES THE LIE. YOUR DELUSION IS REAL....TO YOURSELF YOU CAN REVERSE, YOUR DOWNWARD SPIRAL, OF YOUR OWN PERSONAL 3RD WAVE DOWN. REPENT AND LOVE YOUR BROTHERS. I COUNT IT ALL JOY, FOR RD'S OPINIONS WILL BE VALIDATED.

Trailblazer

Latest from James Flanagan at Gann Global"

"On Tuesday the stock market traded to within a fraction of our
ideal projected low for this "correction".

Earlier today, I recorded this new video where I provide you with
a case for long positions in the S&P 500, should we see the right
type of trade action.

As I write these words, the September S&P 500 contract has
declined to as low as 1,016.00 in this evening electronic session.
If the current decline to new lows is followed by a reversal higher
will issue a major buy signal.

This same pattern has occurred in 25 of the last 28 corrections
since futures began trading in 1982. On this basis, we have
subscribers poised to enter both long speculative and investment
positions.

Watch: Why This Current Decline in the S&P 500 May Be an Ideal Set Up for Long Positions

Have a good day and profitable trading,

James Flanagan

Forget the World Cup this is W.D.Gann vs R.N. Elliott!!!

A technical analysts wet dream

nspolar


Archived in Economic Statistics, Forex News, Forex TradingAussie May Retail Sales & Building Approvals
Written June 30, 2010 at 9:43 PM EST by Alex Chernomordin

The Australian May seasonally adjusted Retail Sales reading expected to be up by 0.3% came in lower at 0.2%, also weaker than the prior reading of 0.6%. The Building Approvals came in much worse moving the AUD/USD pair down 50+ pips initially and the EUR/USD through the 1.22 handle.

Archived in Forex TradingChina’s PMI Manufacturing
Written June 30, 2010 at 9:08 PM EST by Alex Chernomordin

Risk and commodity pairs moved to session lows again in the Asian session on the back of a weaker than expected PMI Manufacturing reading for June. Expected at 53.2 and coming in at 52.1 (53.9 prior) was enough to move the FX market and equities back to the lows.


Archived in Economic Statistics, Forex News, Forex Trading.

ns

Le Chiffre

Trailblazer,

I checked out that Gann Global video, however I thinkthe setup he's pushing this time is more of common sense trading stuff (blowing stops, professional support) then Gann.

He's right about the action following the break of 1030-40 being extremely important though. I can see how this could fit in to a big picture bear scenario but with a ST bounce for a week or so.

MT

Correction will be over this month or first week of august. Bottom near 960. I'm sorry Roger, it's a healthy correction in an uptrend. If you are right, we shall see a big bounce from 960 to a least 1070. From there your dream wave starts. I don't see it happen. Keep counting simple and you see what I mean.

DG

DG as we talked about before this move off the top is impulsive and untill we stop doing five down and three up I will continue to be firmly unequiveably damn right bearish.

Maybe in some technical analysis method which isn't Elliott Wave, but uses the word "impulse", this is an Impulse. It's not an Elliott Wave Impulse, as will be shown by the market's behavior once this decline completes.

DG,
God your a fucking asshole!

Roger D.

Doesn't make me wrong, though.

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Eur/Usd bull flag breaks out. If it is not a false one will take the pair above 1.24 region
http://niftychartsandpatterns.blogspot.com/2010/07/eurusd-is-forming-bullish-pattern.html

Roger D.

Latest from James Flanagan at Gann Global"

"On Tuesday the stock market traded to within a fraction of our
ideal projected low for this "correction".

Earlier today, I recorded this new video where I provide you with
a case for long positions in the S&P 500, should we see the right
type of trade action.

As I write these words, the September S&P 500 contract has
declined to as low as 1,016.00 in this evening electronic session.
If the current decline to new lows is followed by a reversal higher
will issue a major buy signal.

This same pattern has occurred in 25 of the last 28 corrections
since futures began trading in 1982. On this basis, we have
subscribers poised to enter both long speculative and investment
positions.

Watch: Why This Current Decline in the S&P 500 May Be an Ideal Set Up for Long Positions

Have a good day and profitable trading,

James Flanagan

Forget the World Cup this is W.D.Gann vs R.N. Elliott!!!

A technical analysts wet dream

Trailblazer

Just using some of Gann's basic rules,angles and time squares,not to mention the astrological setup,I doubt Gann himself would agree. Alot of Gann's methods went to the grave,when the master died.

Roger D.

Roger D.

If some think that this is just a correction,the collapse of the Euro down to par,I gurantee will not be bullish.

Roger D.

http://www.screencast.com/users/parisgnome/folders/Default/media/cdf40dcf-93a7-408f-b11a-6303fec96073

Roger D.

Another 3 off the bottom in the futures, 9750 in the Dow,which will break.

Mamma Boom Boom

>I hope we get Mamma's weak bounce so I can put on some more shorts.<

Looks like we're going to get it, but if I were you I would be hanging on to my shorts with both hands.

Roberto Prechter

I gotta go take a dump again, (of course I'll have to lose my shorts to do that).

Let me know if I miss anything...

Roger D.

Wave (2) top in the Euro?

http://www.screencast.com/users/parisgnome/folders/Default/media/af5541ac-3991-4a23-a02b-65fc82169216

Roger D.

Roger D.

The Euro

http://www.screencast.com/users/parisgnome/folders/Default/media/3bf1195c-65ef-4c9c-86cf-96c548232d0f

Roger D.

nspolar

Gold accelerating to the downside.

http://quotes.ino.com/chart/intraday.gif?s=FOREX_XAUUSDO&t=f&w=15&a=2&v=w

Miners getting crushed.

http://ichart.finance.yahoo.com/w?s=%5EHUI&lang=en-US&region=US

A timing tenant for my analysis, for a bottom near end of 2011, is that gold had to top here. Right about here. I had a top like next Tuesday, but today will be alright too.

We bottom ~ end of Nov/first week of Dec in 2011.

Everything is in harmony now.

ns

usdollar

Well, Why make the wave count so difficult. ABC X (irregular flat) ABC1, C1 will end around ~8350 Dow. This C wave will take us down to around 2K before Jan 2011 ends. The stepeest decline will occur Nov 8-15-16. Over analysis of a graph is not very helpful. It is nice to be short:).

usdollar

USD should hit about 98 on index, before it plunges. Plunge probably Nov 2010.

Roger D.

Last chart today,good luck.

Roger D.

http://www.screencast.com/users/parisgnome/folders/Default/media/757b8603-57ae-482c-a737-46d4d373544e

Steven_737

"I only hope you're "all in" on the short side, so you can get f*cked and finally learn your lesson."


dg you are out of line.

On just about every forum you would be banned by now.

You OWE us all an apology.

If not, then

"May the Universe provide you many times what you wish for others."

usdollar

Tick...tick...tick - Israeli Mistake, Confusion, and a chart


After speaking with George Ure about the current events as of today, and having run into a wall of confusion, and misunderstanding between us over certain forecasts and the language and the tension values, i thought it wise to post this small article and a chart in aid of the confusion, either to increase, or decrease.

The issue is the July 11th break into 18 and a half hours of release language. George, and apparently others, are under the impression that some big 'thing' would happen on that date. This may well be the case, however, note that the release language (all the downward slanting lines in the charts below) continues all summer as punctuations to building tension. So the pattern from July 11th through to November 8th is one of building tension and then release of tension, almost on a daily basis. Note that this is the USUAL state of our charts for the planet. What is unusual is that we have been in a very long period of building tension for these past few months. What is also unusual is the 'tipping point' that is forecast to occur over 4 days in November from the 8th through the 11th inclusive. Then what is even more unusual is that the release language continues unabated, without deviation for over 2 months, from November 11th through to January 23rd. Please note some slight distortion in the charting software related to fonts alters the dates placement visually. The above dates are from the raw data, not from charting.

So, knowing that the September 11th attacks on the money center of the planet by TPTB (we call this the 9/11 event), had a tipping point that lasted about 4 hours, followed by 12 hours of release language, before returning to building tension language as the planet tried to sort things out the next day, we can base our speculations on what may occur given the values that we have forecast for release and building tension language trends. .

Now, on July 11th, the 'crocodile teeth pattern' of daily building tension, followed by release tension, returns. This lasts in a general way until the tipping point on November 8th forms. The daily release of tension does not purge from the total build up of tension completely so the general trend is one of a building tension continuum through to November 8th.

In addition to the chart below, note that the collector programs that we run that collect daily language and compare it to forecasts, has a sudden jump from .9% fulfillment to over 9.8 % in the 'israeli mistake' language. So it appears as though the Israelis are going to attack Iran within a short period of time, perhaps within the next 30 days. This would fit with the release language on the 11th of July, or any of the subsequent release language episodes for the rest of that month. One can also allow monkey mind to speculate that the 12 days of torment for the Obama administration minions over the first 12 days of August *could* be provoked by the israeli mistake having been initiated in the weeks prior.

I had a failure of imagination in that i could not conceive of the Israeli mistake (attack on Iran) as taking *months* to lead to the overwhelming response, i.e. global thermonuclear war. This was a failure on my part. In speaking with George, we were able to noodle up a scenario whereby it does take several months following the Israeli mistake launch before the multinational thermonuclear response could/would/does occur. This then does fit the current chart (from a speculative, monkey mind perspective), in that a July attack on Iran produces a November global thermonuclear war as the Allies take on the TPTB and their stooges, the Israelis and the American Military Empire.

Being a human, this idea that TPTB trick the populace of the planet into yet another useless war over religion by the religious in servile slavish worship of the irreligious does not sit well with me. I had repeatedly thought that the Terra entity involvment within the November tipping point could well be the clue that it was to NOT be horrific, species ending war, but rather would be some giant earth changes such as the Pacific tectonic plate cracking that we are also expecting. Or even, giant radiation from the sun.

However, the recent and very large jump in magntitude of the language forecast for the 'israeli miske', sub set 'active war launch', is too much to ignore. So without regard as to how long it may take, or the many other ramifications, the data streaming in now suggests that the [israeli mistake] that leads to so much planetary misery is on, and likely soon.

Please note that the temporal markers along the way to the [active attack phase (of israeli mistake)] have all been met, and the largest, and closest to the actual manifestation of the [israeli mistake] was the [ranking general faux pas (mal mots)] that we have just seen fulfilled in these most recent news stories about Obama and his General McCrystal.

So my position has altered in that it is seeming more likely by the day that the [israeli mistake] is 'on' and soon. Many of the critical elements now in place are not able, from a military logistics view point, to be maintained for too long in place before their usefulness degrades below acceptable levels.....therefore, certain conclusions need to be drawn appropriately.

As you may note from the chart below, the period from July 11th through to the tipping point of November 8th through the 11th is both very short, and extremely 'toothy'....as may be expected of the time between the skirmish (the israeli mistaken attack on Iran), and the resultant global thermonuclear war.

Also note, we could be wrong about the 'whats' and 'whys' of the building tension and release tension points....there is always consistent hope for that as we get the details wrong repeatedly. However, the temporal marker of the ranking general in deep shit came from the same data set that produced the israeli mistake forecast. So......take it all as speculative, until it is not.

Now it is up to you to decide what will occur, and how. After all, it is the mass of humans who run this planet, though they may not rule it, they can shut down and stop anything they choose when they choose, by simply *not* cooperating with stupid bullshit from the 'system'...aka, TPTB.

Chart is annotated.

See chart on www.halfpasthuman.com
www.urbansurvival.com



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S&P 500 Trading near resistance levels
http://niftychartsandpatterns.blogspot.com/2010/07/s-500-trading-near-broken-support-area.html

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DG !!

Thanx for your perspective on SNP.Even based on the view u gave me after a brief E leg we are headed straight down and could be quite a ferocious fall.Wht do u have to say about it ?

Wht is the larger structure that u r looking at or is it still that the count is still evolving.


Regards
VB

Steven_737

usdollar,

can you please say in PLAIN ENGLISH,
what the message is
and why you think it is credible?


"However, the temporal marker of the ranking general in deep shit came from the same data set that produced the israeli mistake forecast"

"Many of the critical elements now in place are not able, from a military logistics view point, to be maintained for too long in place before their usefulness degrades below acceptable levels.....therefore, certain conclusions need to be drawn appropriately. "

"I had repeatedly thought that the Terra entity involvement within the November tipping point could well be the clue that it was to NOT be horrific, species ending war, but rather would be some giant earth changes such as the Pacific tectonic plate cracking that we are also expecting. Or even, giant radiation from the sun."

Perhaps this fellow running webbot has studied linguistics as he claims, but his writing abilities are not supportive of his claim.

If the code that he has written to "understand" what is on posters' minds when they type messages on blogs, is as clear, coherent and rule based as his writing, then we should not expect his forecasts to be of any value...

and of course

"Now it is up to you to decide what will occur, and how. "

Prechter, Neely and Hochberg would love to use that line

:):)

ps. I am not attacking you,
I am just saying that I do not see value in the webbot text.

Chico

Today's moves in the euro and yen does not look good for dollar bulls.

Mamma Boom Boom


I have certainly been wrong with my analysis, this week. I did not expect the S&P to drop below 1060. This puts a couple of my indicators in a precarious position. It will work out, though.

Hopefully, this is the last time I'm wrong for the remainder of the year.


Sjaak Trekhaak

Mamma, I am wrong in about 80% of my (short term) trades in the sense that I lose money on them. The thing for me is to (try to) stop the losses on those 80% fast enough and make the money with the remaining 20%. The last days belonged to the 20% btw.

da bear

usdollar,

yeah, I am looking for a last spike up in the dollar to about 100 then a 50% crash or so.

I think that we are in Grand Super Cycle C down which is how we can get to 2,000 or lower on the DOW within 2 or 3 years.

This is similar to the summer of 1930 to the summer of 1932.

So what to do: Ask your local bank teller about change. Specifically, pennies, nickels and dimes. (Quarters are the Fiat Metals of rich people.).
But I did see one encouraging sign: my local bank had $250 in fives and $500 in tens; I was highly f-ing impressed!

Wonder what Big Regional Bank's got in pennies and nickels?
Time will tell!!!!!!!!


da bear

The Obama Nation of Desolation is coming to a Gulf of Mexico (aka the Confederacy's Above Ground Pool) near you!

Mamma Boom Boom

Sjaak, fortunately I've been keeping pretty tight stops on, so the damage is minimal. Mainly, I hate losing the grasp on the trend.

Mr. Panic

James Flanagan uses basic Gann ideas. He doesn't employ any esoteric or hard-core Gann Methods. I think he believes we are following the 60 year cycle and that the stock market low was made last year ala 1949. He does have am impressive database of past price history for all commodities going back to the early 1800s though. He really should be looking at 1930 not 1950. And important corrections such as all those going back to 1982 as he suggested don't end with the McClellan Oscillator and Summation Index in their current configuration.

usdollar

Well it means after following them a few years, that the stock market is going to go down so much starting most likely in mid October 2010 (Possible bradley seconday top Oct. 20). Their dates are unbelivably accurate. Nov 8-11, is speculated to start WW3, or have the steepest part of the decline. They are chillingly right on their dates, the rest is speculation, WW3 etc. Since the dollar is going to take an incredable beating starting around Nov. I would equally guess that a f-ing hurricane hit Florida, "killing all life" in the South East of USA. There are Tsunami fear if the oil leak will fuse itself, creating 400-600 ft waves. Nuke risk, (government might have to evacuate and nuke the Gulf) since there is talk about 25 billion barrels of oil down there, which could destroy the Atlantic and Mexican Gulf.
Israel and Iranian conflict, etc.

But their previous tipping point dates, not as bradley turndates, which are 30 per year, are 9/11 2001, 10/7 2008, 5/6 2010, 7/12 2010, 11/8-11 2010. Cross ref. them against the stock market. As he says also is that the tension building for 9/11 was 4 hours, this is 4 days. It might also just be a derivatives crash??? I do not take it personally, their dates are just right on every time, and their dates are very far apart. I do not know if the 7/12 2010 date is correct yet, so we just have to wait and see. May 6 small release sucked 1000 p out of djia in 30 min or so. Listen to webbot april 1 2010 interview on youtube.

usdollar

He predicted that a high ranking military would say something embarresing etc. The importance is that he is using 0s and 1s to predict same behavior in humans as animals show for example before the Sumatra Tsunami came to shore they fled up the mountains. Prechter's words and others is that the stock market collects the psychology of the masses. The rest as I mentioned is speculation. If you think it is useless info, do not us it. DaBear I am with you on that, but I believe we will be there Jan- Feb 2011. Look at the huge H&S, it is easy to see where DJIA is going, to ZERO-HERO.

holier than thou

Based on what I've read today, except for that DG dude and the host "Yelnick", this blog is full of god damn know-best pansies and amateur wannabees.

What a joke, What a shame, What a sham.

If you guys were trading for real you'd be broke!

Get a life kiddies!

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