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Saturday, February 05, 2011

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Chabazite

Good post, Yelnick. Just interested in anyone's prognosis on the following dilemma. $2T of QE (including the $600B since November) has had the effect of boosting share prices for the minority, and commodities which unfortunately impoverishes the majority. Meanwhile, said FED actions appear not to have turned the US money supply positive http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/money-supply-charts so I guess it could be argued that the US remains stuck within a deflationary cycle. So a continuation with the policy, say with QE3, results in a devaluation of the currency until Joe Sixpack starts to scream 'no more' because he can't afford the basic necessities of life. How does this get resolved from ECONOMIC standpoint. Does it end up in some kind of deflationary collapse 'a la Prechter', or a rebasing and stabilising of the dollar around (say) gold? Interested to get views on how this gets resolved in the longer term.

thoughts?

I think that, at this stage in history, finance is like a top that is about to fall because it is losing angular momentum. We will wobble from side to side dramatically before falling to one particular side. Financially speaking, this would be more and more extreme and rapid inflations and deflations. If the stock market tumbles, for example, easy money will pour out even more freely than before in ever more desperate attempts to inflate... but the inflation will go directly and powerfully into the most essential things: energy and food. So we'll get, oh, doubling and tripling of oil and grains within days.

Dunno! Just seems to me that, if we are going into a deflation, it will be with dramatic, ridiculous inflations along the way. Kicking and screaming, so to speak. I mean, heck, the 30s is everyone's nightmare.

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Mamma Boom Boom

>I mean, heck, the 30s is everyone's nightmare.<

How do you know? Where you there?

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I have an idea.

Every single unemployed American receiving financial assistance in any way should be given a "job" to do nothing. Then since these are all new government workers (doing nothing) and now have jobs we can then say that the economy is back to full employment.

Mamma Boom Boom

? ....... It's not an easy puzzle, at this point. the American people have been sold down the river. Bill Clinton did it. I've been very vocal about that, made several post right here, if you remember.

It's almost hopeless, at this point. We don't have a congress that cares, so nothing will be done. The unemployed simply have to live with it, gather in communes, pool their resources, defend themselves from thieves and government thugs.

Chabazite

Every single unemployed American receiving financial assistance in any way should be given a "job" to do nothing. Then since these are all new government workers (doing nothing) and now have jobs we can then say that the economy is back to full employment.
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Yep - almost exactly what they do in India. Deliberate goverment policy. Give everybody a third of a job and pay them a third of a wage. That way no one starves.

employment genius

In last year's State of the Union, Obama declared job creation his "No. 1 focus," then spent much of 2010 on other priorities like overhauling healthcare and Wall Street rules.

With the elevated unemployment rate still ranking as Americans' top concern, there is little doubt jobs will again be the centerpiece of Obama's speech.

But more than ever before, Obama is also expected to use the annual address to cast himself as more of a fiscal hawk, possibly a tough sell for a leader presiding over trillion-dollar-plus annual budget deficits.

yelnick

chab, the Bernank's "wealth effect" for a few has created a "poverty effect" for the many - the squeeze in higher energy and food prices. I do not think QE3 is inevitable, especially if this stock market continues to climb into May when the decision on ending QE2 fast or slowly will be made. I expect in any event a pause between QE2 and QE3, which should make stocks stutter from June to Sept. If the commodities bubble does not crack by then the Fed may be forced to extend that pause.

Mamma Boom Boom

>especially if this stock market continues to climb into May<

Ah-ha, another bull!

Chabazite

Interesting Yelnick. Thank you for the response.

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